MyDD :: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad

Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad

by Shem, Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:51:38 PM EST

The Republicans just created a YouTube profile called "DemsonObama" and released a new piece which is composed entirely of words from Senator Hillary Clinton.

Hours before the polls closed Tuesday in the final two Democratic presidential primaries, the Republican National Committee began circulating a video of Hillary Clinton questioning Barack Obama's qualifications to be commander-in-chief, and acknowledging John McCain has this important presidential credential.

An RNC official tells CNN to expect to see more of Republicans highlighting Clinton's critical comments of Obama as the campaign now turns to the general election phase.

"We will use it repeatedly," the official said.

The media and pundits are pushing for their "Dream Team" ticket with Hillary as Obama's vice president, but that strategy is severely flawed. We need a ticket wherein the two candidates strengthen and compliment -- not undercut -- one another. If Hillary's on the ticket, how can she reconcile her past McCain advocacy (which the Republicans intend to invoke repeatedly) and anti-Obama attacks?

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Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxDLKUeoJ m0

Senator McCain will bring a lifetime of experience to the campaign, I will bring a lifetime of experience and Senator Obama will bring a speech that he gave in 2002. I think that is a significant difference. I think that since we now know Senator McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that.

And I think it is imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold. And I believe I have done that. Certainly, Senator McCain has done that. And you will have to ask Senator Obama with respect to his candidacy.

Emphasis mine.

John McCain: He flunked ECON 101.

by Shem on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:54:44 PM EST

Boring Ad (2.00 / 2)

it's will put people to sleep - like a McSame speech.

Gawd, McSame is snoring.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:58:21 PM EST
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Re: Boring Ad (none / 0)

I agree that the GOP's effort, using Clinton's words against Obama, is lame. Everyone knows, during a campaign, words are said in the heat of the moment. I'm sure the Democrats could pull out a few choice clips of Romney hitting McCain. Of course, now, Romney's lips are permanently pressed to McCain's ass.

by zenful6219 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:29:04 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

It's too early for them to use this ad. Seriously. They are wasting it at this time...

Typical, but not at all worrisome.

by Lawyerish on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:05:14 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

It's not a waste, because it's bullsh*t and they know it.

by zenful6219 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:29:48 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

To her credit, she never said that he didn't.

By your logic, that eliminates nearly all of his former opponents, who piled on him at the UAW (union) debate last summer for saying that he would negotiate with our advesaries without preconditions. That eliminates Dodd, Biden, Clinton, Edwards, and Richardson. They all went after him on that.

Linfar's co-blogger opposing John McCain

by psychodrew on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:54:35 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (2.00 / 1)

just as Edwards was questioned about his harsh words against Obama - it is the primary, silly.

actually, she would be best person to attack back to those who wish to use her words.

people who are not going to vote for Obama aren't going to vote for him, regardless if Hillary is Veep. That statement is not going to sway anyone who will vote for a dem.

by colebiancardi on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:55:34 PM EST

not sure (none / 0)

they would say "you were against him, before you were for him, etc."

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:57:24 PM EST
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John Edwards (2.00 / 1)

Edwards never praised McCain, nor did Edwards claim that McCain is qualified (while Obama is not). There's a world of difference.

John McCain: He flunked ECON 101.

by Shem on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:57:33 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards (none / 0)

Edwards did state that Obama was light and full of rhetoric. That is pretty bad

he also slammed him on Rezco

Edwards got a lot of shots into Obama in the primary season.

by colebiancardi on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:02:47 PM EST
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Edwards never, never advocated for McCain. (none / 0)

It's clear you don't see the apples/oranges issue here.

John McCain: He flunked ECON 101.

by Shem on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:13:06 PM EST
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Re: Edwards never, never advocated for McCain. (2.00 / 1)

and Hillary didn't not either.

She was talking about experience, which she did clarify about how McCain has the wrong experience.

by colebiancardi on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:15:17 PM EST
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Re: Edwards never, never advocated for McCain. (none / 0)

and it is also clear that you don't see that people who are going to vote for McCain aren't going to do it because of something Hillary stated many months earlier.

this is just playing to the republican base. Weird, because the republican base HATES Hillary. They would just think she was lying.

by colebiancardi on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:16:57 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

Sigh....

I agree, I think the dream ticket has a lot of problems and this is a big one?

If Senator Clinton is serious about the VP, she can get out ahead of this, by bashing this to pieces?

But, will she?

My take is, to a large extent, she believes it?

I'm convinced Bill believes it?

And, from looking at the blogs, most of her supporters do as well?

How can Obama consider putting her on the ticket, unless she tears this ad to shreds?

He will be asked endlessly:

"even your VP thinks you aren't qualified...."

"Well the danger on the rocks is surely past... Still I remain tied to the mast"...Don Fagen, Poet and Piano Player

by WashStateBlue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:57:26 PM EST

that's an additional problem (none / 0)

the hillary hating press will harp on all of her prior statements if she's the VEEP.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:01:07 PM EST
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Re: that's an additional problem (none / 0)

Which one of those press corps do you write for?

Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?

by emsprater on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:43:58 PM EST
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Only you care (2.00 / 1)

like the GOP wasn't going to attack Obama on this point if Clinton hadn't brought it up. Hillary hate is going to get just as old as Obama hate, real quick like.

by linc on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 05:57:54 PM EST

"If Clinton hadn't brought it up." (none / 0)

The Republicans were going to manufacture a clip of Hillary Clinton claiming John McCain has passed a "Commander-in-Chief test" while Obama has not? That's an interesting claim.

That it's being used as ad fodder suggests I'm not the only one who cares, by the way.

John McCain: He flunked ECON 101.

by Shem on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:01:42 PM EST
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You think that is going to be the worst? (none / 0)

give me a break. Like I said, no one will care. Maybe you should take your concern on over to the Obama camp and ensure that they are ready for the onslaught of Wright ads or Michelle's proudest moment ads. The GOP loves sensationalism, not pedantic points that are ambiguous at best.

by linc on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:05:01 PM EST
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Have you seen the picture of Michele with (none / 0)

Farrakhan today?

by suzieg on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:31:07 PM EST
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The Republicans know BO's only chance (1.00 / 1)

of winning, should he be the nominee, would be to have HRC on the ticket, so if they have any motivation it is that. I wonder how you even know this comes from Republicans, it could come from one of the many hostile Obama supporters who cannot deal with her strength.

by Molee on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:05:13 PM EST

Are you illiterate? (none / 0)

CNN's the source, and the RNC is openly promoting and claiming it.

John McCain: He flunked ECON 101.

by Shem on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:11:41 PM EST
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The plan (1.00 / 1)

2012 is now her focus. If Obama wins in 2008, it would be an "inconvenience" for her plans.

by rf7777 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:05:15 PM EST

Re: The plan (none / 0)

I stopped buying the 2012 thing a while ago.

I think, generationally, this was her last shot?

More of her core supporters leave this mortal coil, more of the millenials who have no ties to the Clinton era enter the demographic every year?

No, that is why she was willing to throw the kitchen sink, and knowling piss off all the African American Votes?

This was her shot, if McCain wins, in 2012 someone the same age as Obama is now will step up to the plate against him....

"Well the danger on the rocks is surely past... Still I remain tied to the mast"...Don Fagen, Poet and Piano Player

by WashStateBlue on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:33:54 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (2.00 / 1)

The GOP is going to attack Obama with these kinds of ads regardless and it will be a problem.

I'm not really sure whether it will be a bigger problem if HRC is on or off the ticket. On the one hand, there is obvious "gotcha" value to saying "OMG, look what his own VP said about him!" On the other hand, many of the primary targets of this ad are Hillary supporters to begin with. That's why a range of ads (note that the story said that they would use other HRC comments in addition to the CiC) is being employed. Its not just to say that a dem attacked Obama, but specifically to pull at the emotions of Hillary supporters, who will no doubt remember these moments and think about their own reactions to them, which probably were along the lines of her being right. In some ways, having HRC on the ticket actually negates that effect.

John McCain: Extending SCHIP would be an "unfunded liability."

by Fuzzy Dunlop on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:14:50 PM EST

Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

but if they are Hillary supporters, they would also see what she states now if she was Veep.

come on. If anything, having HRC on the ticket is the way to get 'em back.

by colebiancardi on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:18:07 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

That's what I'm saying CC. The conventional wisdom is that HRC can't be on the ticket because her words can be used in attack ads against Obama. But I think there's an argument to be made that an Obama-Clinton ticket is actually more resistant to these attacks because the targets are Clinton supporters.

John McCain: Extending SCHIP would be an "unfunded liability."

by Fuzzy Dunlop on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:30:48 PM EST
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Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

sorry, I guess I was agreeing with you :)

by colebiancardi on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:32:45 PM EST
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Don't you think (2.00 / 2)

This might be a ploy to try and get us away from what they feel is a strong ticket?

by Mayor McCheese on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:15:11 PM EST

Re: Don't you think (2.00 / 1)

yep

by colebiancardi on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:17:14 PM EST
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Re: Don't you think (2.00 / 1)

Good point...

Obama supporter who is damn glad Hillary Clinton is a Democrat!!

by hootie4170 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:22:53 PM EST
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Re: Don't you think (none / 0)

No, but if so, I would put it like this:

"it's an attempt to make an Obama/Clinton ticket impossible."

We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies.

by Jess81 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:54:35 PM EST
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i knew this would happen (none / 0)

It was a disgusting attack at the time, and I hope it kills her chance at VP.

by highgrade on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 06:23:42 PM EST

This ad is not directed at republicans (none / 0)

The idea is to turn Hillary supporters into McCain voters. Last I checked that would be democrats and moderate independents. At best, this is a defensive maneuver to stir up trouble until they can come up with something better.

by professor on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:16:43 PM EST

That was her worst comment (2.00 / 1)

this season, and I remain an avid Clinton supporter. That comment was probably over the top on her part.

But Kerry morphed Howard Dean's face into Osama bin Laden's when he ran against Dean, so we've seen worse.

by catfish2 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:17:30 PM EST

Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

Now, HERE's a good ad that hits on something Americans care about.

by zenful6219 on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 07:45:03 PM EST

Re: Hillary's 'CIC Threshold' in new GOP attack ad (none / 0)

Yes, that ad, this diary and $5 will get you a cup of latte.

Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?

by emsprater on Tue Jun 03, 2008 at 09:47:17 PM EST

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